Nasveti za avtomobiliste (angleščina)

[bass]

Chris's tips for car-only drivers

(Because clearly millions of you need to be told)

Eyes

You have two of these, normally located in the front of your head. Use them. Don't just look, but see what's going on. You might spot someone else on the road other than you. I know that comes as a surprise, but there are other people entitled to share the same road space with you. Here's something else - get them tested. In the UK, a 2003 study found that 1 in 7 drivers who didn't think they needed glasses had vision so bad that their licenses could have been revoked.

Brain

You should have one of these. Most humans are issued with one as standard. It's used for a lot of things, and is certainly capable of multitasking. When you're using your eyes (see above) to look in your mirrors (see below), use your brain to interpret the information. Very handy.

Mirrors

The shiny, reflective things in your car. You have at least one, and most modern cars have three. Interestingly, they're not for putting your makeup on, or adjusting your hair. They are in fact to help you use your eyes to see what's behind you without the horrible inconvenience of actually turning your head. Look in them occasionally, you'll be surprised at what you see.

Indicators

You know those pretty little orange lights that light up the corners of your car? I hate to tell you, but they're not decorative elements put there by the designers on a whim. They actually have a purpose. For the 99.999% of us who can't read your thoughts, those are indicator lights, for you to use to indicate to us what you intend to do. They're operated by a stalk on the steering column - you should try them some time. Oh, and when you do, make sure you use them before actually turning. Like I said, most of the rest of us have trouble reading your mind.

Steering wheel

The big circular thing you hold on to when driving. Apparently, not many of you realise that if you turn this, your car will drift from lane to lane. Most often, you also haven't grasped the basic use of the indicators (see above) so the result is that you'll change lanes, probably surprising yourself, and certainly surprising everyone behind you because you didn't tell us you were going to do it. By the way, when you do this, that grating, scraping, crashing sound from the back of the car isn't "ordinary car noises" - it means you've hit someone.

Brakes

Now this is a complicated one. The middle pedal in your manual car, or the left pedal in your automatic, is there to slow you down, and even stop you. I mention this because it seems that when you've committed to a bonehead maneuver, and see the motorbike at the last minute, not many of you realise that pushing this pedal will make you stop. Often, if you stop, it will avoid the accident. You don't have to run into us you know - your car will stop if instructed to do so. I think the problem is that in order to use the brakes, you also need to engage your eyes and your brain at the same time, and for most of you, that does seem to cause some trouble.

Cellphone

Throw the fucking thing away. You can't drive on a good day. Now you're trying to drive while clamping a cellphone to your ear and holding a conversation? I know I said the brain was multitasking, but you know that you can't do all this at the same time. Just throw it away. You're not that important, really - you aren't. And believe me, your phonecall isn't so important that you have to endanger everyone else on the road to take it.

"Sorry, I didn't see you"

This is the phrase that your brain will be desperately trying to get you to say, when you realise that your eyes didn't see the motorbike you just hit because you didn't use your mirrors, brakes or indicators appropriately, and were having an unimportant, inconsequential conversation on your cellphone. You'll step out of the car and find the motorcyclist and you'll be so desperately wanting to say this phrase that you'll not be able to hold back. It's worth knowing that if you do utter these five words to an injured motorcyclist, you are likely to be punched and kicked and otherwise generally assaulted because these are not words that we like to hear. You say "sorry, I didn't see you". What we hear is "I'm a blind fucking moron and my brain doesn't work". These five words are only marginally less offensive than "Are you okay?"

Crash helmet

This is not so much of a tip as a public information service. Now that you've run the motorcyclist down, and pissed him off by telling him you didn't see him, and asking if he's okay, your next course of action will typically be to try to take his crash helmet off. No, no no no no no no no no a thousand times no. Use your brain. You just nearly killed the guy and now you want to remove the one item of protective gear that might be holding his head together after you swatted him with your Buick? Are you totally deranged? No - don't answer that. If you've got this far into the accident, we all know the answer. You're blind, and stupid. We don't need to add deranged to the list.

[Unicorn]

Kako smešno, a žalostno - in kar je najhuje - resnično.

[rokkas]

jap. po naših avtocestah so smerniki postali lost art, pri zozitvah nihce ne zna zadrge, da o kroznih sploh ne govorim. zal je tako. ravno danes sem imel na stejerski ac pred seboj talenta ki je z 100km/h lepo vozil po prehitelvalnem in tudi po veckratnem signaliziranju naj se umakne se ni pustil zmotiti. clovek je nato prisiljen prehiteti po desni (ce je prostor da nekoga prehitis po desni je tudi prostor da bi se ta osebek lahko umaknil)

[minimi]

jap. po naših avtocestah so smerniki postali lost art, pri zozitvah nihce ne zna zadrge, da o kroznih sploh ne govorim. zal je tako. ravno danes sem imel na stejerski ac pred seboj talenta ki je z 100km/h lepo vozil po prehitelvalnem in tudi po veckratnem signaliziranju naj se umakne se ni pustil zmotiti. clovek je nato prisiljen prehiteti po desni (ce je prostor da nekoga prehitis po desni je tudi prostor da bi se ta osebek lahko umaknil)

se podpišem pod to. tudi jaz večkrat prakticiram prehitevanje po desni.
velikokrat vidim tudi kako se nekateri vozijo kar s pospravljenimi zunanjimi ogledali,...
avtošole pa sam € pridno zbirajo, drugo je pa

[Xeon]

Zadnja dva tedna sem prav načrtno opazoval in lahko rečem da je skoraj vsak drugi avto, ki me je obšel ko sem čakal na prehodu za pešce, vozil nekdo, ki je hkrati telefoniral, ali pa se kako drugače igračkal s telefonom (SMS in razni drugi kretenizmi, ki odvračajo pozornost od vožnje). Vozniki LPP-ja pogosto prakticirajo govorjenje med vožnjo... na žalost.

Da sploh ne omenjam varnosti kolesarjev v prometu. Ker sem sam 95% časa na kolesu, ostalo pa peš (alfo imam bolj za dolge vožnje izven mesta), lahko rečem, da je odnos voznik avtomobila / kolesar na nuli ...

[prjatu]

Vozniki LPP-ja pogosto prakticirajo govorjenje med vožnjo... na žalost.

Ker sem redni uporabnik LPP, se potrudim in na mail "zatožim" take voznike. Jebiga, se pač brez varnostnega pasu in airbagov ne počutim dovolj varnega ob takem početju. LPP pa je faca in se mi zahvali za vsako tako prijavo Se pa ob takem početju nekoliko slabo počutim, kao tožibaba, ampak jebiga, sam tega ne počnem in od drugih pričakujem enako

[Xeon]

Vozniki LPP-ja pogosto prakticirajo govorjenje med vožnjo... na žalost.

Ker sem redni uporabnik LPP, se potrudim in na mail "zatožim" take voznike. Jebiga, se pač brez varnostnega pasu in airbagov ne počutim dovolj varnega ob takem početju. LPP pa je faca in se mi zahvali za vsako tako prijavo Se pa ob takem početju nekoliko slabo počutim, kao tožibaba, ampak jebiga, sam tega ne počnem in od drugih pričakujem enako

Imaš prav, konec koncev so odgovorni za vse potnike na avtobusu in ostale udeležence v prometu ... naslednjič tudi sam storim enako

[rokkas]

cisto prav naredis. zanimivo pri telefoniranju je da vecina ljudi si misli da lahko telefonira brez tezav. Smo pa na treningu varne voznje imeli zanimiv primer ki velja tako za telefon v roki kot za handsfree (razlika je minimalna). Ce se iz ene strani LJ peljes na drugo in telefoniras (either way) skoraj zagotovo se ne spomnis nicesar kar se je zgodilo na poti (semaforjev, ceste, poti...). Sem poskusil in je res kr scary

[prjatu]

Ja, noben bus driver najbrž ni videl tegale videa

[Xeon]

Take posnetke bi morali dat na ogled vsem voznikom, preden grejo na svojo progo (no saj, tekst v začetnem postu teme pa vsakemu, ki dvigne vozniško )

[bass]

Zastonj bi bilo vse. Ljudje kot kolektiv so GOVEDA. In govedo razume samo palico. Po drugi strani pa je prejšnja vlada (kot zelo slab pastir tega goveda) podvojila kazni za hitrost in RAZPOLOVILA kazen za telefoniranje med vožnjo, saj predstavljajo čvekave mamice za volanom ogromen procent volilcev. Ravno te mamice se seveda glasno strinjajo tudi s povečanjem kazni za hitrost, saj ne vozijo hitro, ampak samo počasi in nevarno. Neke vrste vladno-pastirski odpustki, podkupnina volilcem, če želite.

Prej sem prakticiral BT slušalko, ko pa videvam policiste v kiblah, ki telefonirajo, zdaj mi je pa res vseeno in redko prižgem BT slušalko.
Lahko bi rekli, da sledim vodstvu naše bivše vlade.
Večinoma telefoniram v rush-hour prometu na poti domov (najraje na rdečem semaforju) in mi je kljub polžjim hitrostim do 30km/h še vedno prioriteta upravljati z avtom, pa tudi če to pomeni sredi klica fuknit mobi na sopotnikov zic in poprijeti za volan. Tudi ogledala in mrtve kote s pogledom ošinem 2x pogosteje kot običajno, ravno zaradi zmanjšane pozornosti, da bi prej opazil nevarno situacijo.
Ga ni klica, ki bi bil tako pomemben, da bom dal prednost mobitelu in ne volanu. Je pa pri raji večinoma obratno, vsak klic je življenskega pomena po opazovanju sodeč. Najbolj bolano pa mi je, da vozniki z mobijem "prikovanim na uho" tudi zelo redko opazujejo ogledala, kaj šele da bi obrnili glavo, to pa ne, jim lahko mobitel pade, to pa že ne...

[lizard]

Po LJ se iz trole da lepo opazovat voznike, in enkrat sem v petih minutah naštel 10 takih, ki so menjavali brzine z mobitelom v roki kot, da se je potrebno v milisekudni oglasit če kdo kliče, ker drugače življenju zgubi smisel.

Med naštetimi so večino sicer bile ženske in tudi drugače opažam, da ženske precej raje telefonirajo med vožjo kot moški. Ta opažanja kot taka niso kaj dosti vredna, a takšen je pač moj zaključek.

[bass]

Pravilen zaključek. Ozadje ozr. povod za to sem pa že obelodanil zgoraj.

[Gregson007]

še opazka z moje strani, v tem času dopustov ko je povečan pretok TUJIH vozil po naših Ac:

-vožnja z ugasnjinimi lučmi - podnevi ( tudi v predorih )

-prehitevanje brez predhodne kontrole v vzvratenm ogledalu in vklopa smernika, nazaj tako nič ne vidijo ker imajo na zadnji polici en kup krame

-prehitevanje po desni - konkretni primer: starejši frajer z nemško reg. s Q7, ves napsihiran zavil desno na odstavni pas in punim gasom mimo kolone in to pred cestninsko potem pa na pas z rampo za kamione

-zaprta oz. odlomljena bočna ogledala

-buljenje v tisto navigacijo ki si jo napopa direkt pred faco in potem ne ve kam bi zapeljal na cestninski postaji ali pred razcepi ki jih še nima updejtanih

-vožnja po prehitevalnem pasu 100km/h brez da bi koga prehitevali

-o vzhodnjaških kamionarjih pa ne bom zgubljal besed, ker to so pa DDDD - profesionalni vozniki - my ass

-vožnja pol na prehitevalnem - pol na voznem pasu

-ustavljanje na odstavnem pasu brez potrebe, malo naprej pa ima počivališče in drevesa za opravit potrebo

thnx god da bo kmal konc dopustov in bodo šli drugam delat štale

[svabo]

Men se pa zdi da vedno starejši si,malo napreduješ v "varni vožnji"(smerniki,luči...).
Opazil sem pri sebi in tako ko se pogovarjamo s kolegi,da v drugi državi nekako lažje pritisneš na gas,in ti ni tok mar za omejitve,nasploh si glede kazni in vožnje bolj flegma

Saj pri meni je tako ,pa sem tudi v tujini že plačal kazen