Giulia Veloce Q4 ... by MaStr

[El Barto]

Upam da ti ostane, žal pa lepe stvari padajo v oči raznim idijotom ...

[Damijan]

Matjaž, ko je vandal videl tvoj lep avto, si je rekel, naj bo tako grd kot moja švabska drvarnica in ti naredil, kar pač je.

[MaStr]

[MaStr]

S pomočjo El Bartota, posodobljen multimedia sistem ter Navi mape - hvala!
Večkrat bova mogla na kofe, se je takoj sonček pokazal
PS: Hud stroj si nabavil!!

[Hyperbolicus]

Nekaj za razvajanje ...

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Pa še posrečena objava izvajalca, objavljena na FB ...

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Stanje v prtljažniku... Prostora je še dovolj.

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Ojačevalca pa sta lično postavljena pod poden prtljažnika

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Hi, Im new to this forum and was reading your thread because of the acoustics modifcation you showed at first pages. My Giulia also has the basic sound system, would you say it is benefitial just to change the speakers to better once (which for example?) or would you suggest to go for a complete solution like this post? ( But I dont want to have a huge sub in the Trunk...) Thank you!

[MaStr]

Hi, and welcome to our forum!!!

There have always been 3 systems right from the introduction...
1. Basic system (without seperate amp),
2. Intermediate Theater system
3. Harman Kardon system.

I have a middle-class "Theater" sound system with center speaker and a little sub in the back, all driven by the 8-channel amplifier.
I took this step because the tweeters of the front system was almost inaudible at fader position 0. If I moved the centre of audibility forward, the bass signal from the rear sub dropped dramatically.
If you're not looking for deep bass, but want to amplify the system, then a front system connected to a 4-channel amp will do the trick.
But I would have preferred one smaller (440 x 240 x 280 mm) but powerful enough sub like mine, without reinforcing the front system,
as I had originally planned. But I don't regret a single penny that I made the choice I did,
because I gained both: a volume and a sound quality.

It's up to you what you want, but in any case I recommend soundproofing the door panels.

[Hyperbolicus]

Thanks MaStr,

I have base, for now I think I'll stick with soundproofing and just updating to some nice focal speakers. Lets see how they perform.

Btw you posted before about re-spraying the wheels, can you reccomend somebody who is doing that well and more or less affordable? (In Austria they want 800 for all 4 wheels painted...)I have a problem that I cant find to my 8x19" veloce wheels the 9x19 which have same colour. Mine are really dark gun metal (or is 156107474, Giulia 2019 q2 b-tech Option) and it seems to be a Special Edition I dont know, the colour is similar to quadrifoglio wheels. I even ordered 156159336 9x19 and sent them back because they were lighter Grey. Cant find anything matching...

[MaStr]

If you connect speakers with too much power, you'll only make the sound even worse.
Make sure they are also suitable for connecting to a radio unit.
But I wouldn't do that. It is a cost that brings too little effect, if any. OEM speakers are optimised for this system.
If you want to improve the sound for just a little, then just replace the tweeters and soundproof the doors, as I did in my ex 159 ...

For rim repair and refurbishment, I would recommend Kuret Locksmiths (Ključavničarstvo Kuret), which I know does good work and for a fair price.

[Hyperbolicus]

Thanks, MaStr. I have chosen good fitting speakers I think (Focal ASE-165 Kit with tweeters and acx-165). Soundproof I'll for sure, as the doors will be dissasembled anyway. About the sound, lets see, already done this kind of lazy improvement but in different Car and there was a nice effect. I think, If needed an amp can be added afterwards also, for example some of the guys from giuliaforums had proposed a Plug&Play solution by installing a module between radio unit and regular speaker wires.

Thanks for the tip with the repair Shop, I have to ask them If they repaint the wheels also, since this is more of the concern for me. But there is no hurry , still cant find matching wheels for the rear...

Btw I plan to come to the Alfisti Meeting at 15.6 and lets see perhaps we meet in Person

[MaStr]

I hope I have helped you a little.
If you are really coming on June 15th, you must look for me.
You will not regret it. It's a varied event. Bring an alfa friend, a girlfriend, family ... Food and drinks will be well catered for,
and towards the end of the evening you can also compete with your beast in the drag race and skill ride.
And when you see my Giulia, ask around for the owner, because I'm known to a lot of people.
You will be able to hear a live reproduction of my sound system.
Are you from Austria? I speak a little German too ...

[MaStr]

Še dva mala detajla...
V mat črno folijo je šel scudetto in pa centralni gumb infotaimenta... Bye, bye grdi prstni odtisi!
Hvala, Peter Jereb !!!

[MaStr]

Pri Alanu sanirana prva okvarica - Check Engine lučka P1279-00, napaka na releju za vžig.
Preventivno zamenjanih vseh šest...

[Damijan]

Vidim, da so releji spet postavljeni na butasto mesto. Ne vem, zakaj ne dajo vse v suh motorni prostor...
Bolj kot menjava sama bi/bo pomagalo čiščenje kontaktov (Kontakt chemie 60 (patina in podobno)) in mazivo (zaščitno, Kontakt chemie 61) za elektroniko.

Problem je, zaradi slabega stika, padec napetosti na relejih in potem lasvegas lučke in napake. Srečnemu lastniku pa pada tema na oči...

https://www.kontaktchemie.com/KOC/KOCproductsV2.csp

[El Barto]

Glede na informacije, so problem sami releji in ne kontakti v konektorju, saj se isto dogaja v Stelvijih, pa so releji precej bolje locirani.

So pa običajni mikro releji 30A, 4 pin.
Trije so mi ostali ko sem jih na 166 menjal, tako da jih bom še za eno pest dokupil in pomenjal vse skup, saj pri ceni 4€/kos se sploh ne bom obremenjeval.

[Damijan]

"Kvaliteto" pa dokaj lahko preveriš, če odpreš rele. In ponavadi se ven vsuje temno siv prah, kar pomeni, da so sežgani vklopno/preklopni kontakti v releju. Nekako kot platine pri starejših avtih z razdelilnikom vžiga. Večino problemov pa vseeno povzroči slab stik...

Je pa žalostno, kam je pripeljala "kvaliteta" komponent...

Neprimerno bolje kot Bosch releji so MTA ali Bitron, kateri so tudi prvo vgradnja. Mogoče so prvi po kvaliteti za tema dvema hella. Če pa uspeš dobiti od Mitsubishi electronic je pa zmaga. Lahko tudi rabljeni iz kakšnega Japonca.

Drugače pa, za v bodoče želim vsekakor brez podobnih težav.